“Against School”

As I read this piece it was hard to not compare with my own educational experience. Gatto argue that schools are mere laboratories where the incompetence of the teacher is trickled down to the student. However, this argument is merely situational. The teacher makes the student. In Gatto’s case, the boring, conforming methods in which he was taught in school makes his case valid. Yet In a case such as mine in high school I had teachers who had written books, taught in college, and genuinely cared about my understanding of the material. I had office hours, review sessions, after class questions and discussions that prepared me for the exact kind of education I would “receive” here at Williams.

Although, Gatto makes a good point about individuality within the confines of education. He says, “We could encourage the best qualities of youthfulness-curiosity, adventure, resilience, the capacity for surprising insight simply by being more flexible about time, texts, and tests, by introducing kids to truly competent adults, and by giving each student what autonomy he or she needs in order to take a risk every now and then.” (Page 34) It is certainly smart to promote curiosity and adventure while in school. These children are beginning to take interest in certain subjects and aspects of life that will evolve into passions and maybe even careers. Therefore, for the educational system to promote the ability to explore these things through risk and adventure only fosters good. However at the same time I think it is crucial to understand discipline and order. Gatto fails to understand that flexible test times and homework will only create laziness. Where there should be flexibility is in texts, as he mentions, within readings and their interpretation, leaving kids with the free will to believe whats in their mind and heart rather than whats written on the chalk board.

Lastly, Gatto questions whether or not the bureaucratic educational system is needed. He exclaims that the five day schedule is obsolete, arguing the difference between unschooled and uneducated. In my opinion, the schooling system may be far too constant, grueling and often unneeded but the community serves as a microcosm of real life. Friends deceiving friends, teachers picking favorites, and all in all the social testing that occurs in high school is pretty crucial to the maturity of individuals. School isn’t about learning the formulas or memorizing the historic dates, but about learning how to listen, how to take notes, and how to swim in the social deep end that is high school.

Masking the “Grandpa” Mentality

Throughout this essay by John Gatto, I was looking to see what it is that he really wanted to say, and by the final few paragraphs it finally became clear. Yes, many of the points he makes about the origins of our school system are true, yet I was certain that his real gripe was something that many people whose careers are inextricably entwined with younger people feel: Why aren’t these youngsters are smart, enterprising, brave, (insert adjective here) as prior generations?! Gatto is not a brave school reformer, he’s just another grandpa claiming that his son isn’t as couragous because he didn’t fight in the great war. By ending his essay by railing against consumerism and comparing modern children to Ben Franklin, he’s giving up the game. Men like Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin were not the norm in the 1700’s. They made up the small elite of American society. In every age, for every Washington and Twain, there are millions of people who are dull, painfully average, and yes, bored. No amount of homeschooling and theology tutoring will change that. In this age of souless education systems, we still produce geniuses and inventors in public schools. The system may be designed for a  nefarious and specific purpose, that does not mean it succeeded. Lastly, on his point concerning the virtues of homeschooling: every homeschooled kid I ever knew was the least socially adjusted person in the room. I hope that’s merely unfortunate anecdotal evidence, otherwise Gatto’s dreamworld is a nightmare.

Domination and Subordination in Public Schools

I find Gatto’s description of the effect of public schooling strikingly similar to Lisa Wedeen’s assessment of the effects forced complicity has on a population. Public schooling subjects students to perform countless mundane, menial tasks that students have trouble relating to. Students who obey and complete assignments efficiently and on-time are rewarded and those who don’t are punished. As Wedeen sees it “By complying, each soldier demonstrates the regime’s power to dominate him,” and creates a person who “is capable of inventing and avowing dreams that are unbelievable and not, in fact, his own” (Wedeen 516). Gatto’s assessment of American public schooling aligns with Wedeen’s. In a students struggle to reach the top of the class they must give up essential functions of being a human being. Our options for professional careers are very much limited by the subjects offered at our high schools. Any rejection or disinterest of the mandated public schooling is met with punishment. All the while believing in the system results in reward, but seem to cost students’ individuality. The public school system seems to only promote schooling for occupations essential to the the country’s functioning. If you aren’t looking to become a doctor, researcher, lawyer, educator, engineer or business administrator you will be hard pressed to find support from your public school. Overall, I agree with Gatto in the sense that schooling limits childrens’ belief in what they can become by not providing them the support to reach their individual dreams.

Gatto, Schooling, and Socialism

My having had little exposure to American public schools made it difficult to fully connect with John Taylor Gatto’s argument that “mandatory schooling’s purpose is to turn kids into servants (38).” However, quite naturally, I compared his views on the American institution of public education with the public education one receives in Norway. In turn, I found that I agreed with Gatto’s statement in respect to conformity and how “schools are to establish fixed habits of reactions to authority (36)”. This mindset isn’t exclusive to America—public schools in Norway seek to homogenize performance. In recent years, public education in Norway has been cutting programs and activities for gifted and creative students, forcing these students to pursue such interests outside of school on their own accord. Essentially, public schools in Norway have made a conscious effort to level the playing field for all students, attempting to standardize students and limit students that crave more. The result of “mediocre intellects (36)” isn’t as historically (or culturally) engrained as Gatto believes, but instead is a natural response to a lack of resources and funding. I, therefore, disagree with Gatto’s attempt to solve the crux of the issue by simply allowing a select few to avoid the “tricks and traps (38)” of the system. The system is supposed to identify the needs of the masses whilst providing an environment for every individual to thrive—how is it to progress if only a select few have the resources to advance?

-Christian Horn

Response to Christian Maloney

I definitely agree with the first part of your post. The current school system does provide stability to the nation, while also creating a culture of conformity among the student population. I even agree that the students are taught what to think rather than how to think critically or creatively. I do not believe, however, that students who are brought up through the traditional K-12 public education “will never be able to truly think for themselves nor escape the metaphorical confines of the classroom.” Many intelligent and determined students graduate from public high schools, due to economic constraints or other factors that do not allow a private education, and they end up attending the nation’s top colleges, such as Williams. While the public school system has its obvious flaws, I find it unfair to assume that just because certain students went through public school they will never truly think for themselves. The public school system as a whole might not focus on or promote critical thinking, but generalizing that no student will ever be able to think critically because of their public education is a huge assumption. Graduating from a private high school compared to a public high school might give students an advantage in critical thinking skills, but that does not mean public school graduates will never think freely or critically.

A Realist’s Perspective

Having gone to public school all my life (until this year) I can say that I understand what Gatto sees in the public school system. However, I disagree with his assertion that that what it accomplishes is problematic. School’s function of training good (obedient/civilized) citizens is not evil, instead it is necessary for a functioning society. Not everyone can be a leader or a revolutionary. If that were the case, the structure of society would fall—and with it the standard of living and people’s peace of mind. I also find fault with Gatto’s claim that one of school’s main functions is to brainwash students to consume more and more. I think this is a classic logical fallacy—just because generations before public schooling consumed less than today does not mean that schooling caused this change. Instead, it is more likely that free education increased the productivity and the incomes of later generations, and their consumption grew to match these. I also found Gatto’s references to George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln as leaders who “were not products of a school system” quite misleading. Gatto’s claim implies that these leaders would have been harmed by participating in a school system, however, given all that they accomplished, I find it unlikely that schooling would stand in their way. If schooling increases the standard of living of those that it supposedly “brainwashes,” and allows those who would have been leaders with or without the schooling to think independently—what is left to fear?

For School

A method of ranking and distinction is an essential piece of a meritocracy. In order for individuals to rise, to matriculate, to gain merit, there have to be people who don’t. That sounds grim, but Gatto’s essay is a bit idealized. He implies that if society rid mass schooling, and each child was homeschooled or self-educated (“managed themselves”), children would acquire leadership skills and critical insight—but nay. I think kids, especially nowadays, would sit at home and watch TV all day, and that would truly be “not growing up.” Ben Franklin, George Washington and crew—they are convenient outliers to Gatto’s argument: they are exceptional individuals who were (conveniently) not educated in a mass-schooling system.

This is not to say that the mass schooling system is messed up, because it sounds pretty messed up. There needs to be an emphasis on critical thinking in education—students do need to learn how to manage themselves, to think for themselves and problem solve. I think Williams does this exceptionally well. Williams promotes creative problem solving and demotes mundane task-oriented work (I think). This problem is indeed easier to solve in a small liberal arts college—a public school with 4,000 students is much different. It sounds like teaching methods need to change, but I don’t think required education needs to cease.

Response to Atzin Villarreal Sosa

I agree with Atzin that Gatto fails to conclude his argument with a reasonable solution. Gatto’s suggestions of critical thinking, leadership, and serious study, are all wonderful goals, but they are ideals, as demonstrated by the fact that, ironically, they are the same goals that the current education system, the same system he criticizes, has in place. This irony is compounded by Gatto’s lack of a concrete solution. He mentions parents as the teachers and role models, but if the details are considered, his solution fails as it doesn’t take into account students from nontraditional families (such as single-parent families or foster children), students from socio-economic classes where parents don’t have the resources to educate their children, and students who need the social routines and order of school. To my great-grandparents who worked on family farms in rural Pennsylvania, school was a gift, a reprieve from home life and work. While mandatory schooling has changed the curiosity of school, many students look forward to the day, whether it is due to a hard home life or a simple love of learning. Gatto also forgets that school is not just traditional schooling. At risk of sounding cliché, school is about discovering yourself and who you want to be, whether that’s through academics, sports, the arts, or social life. The qualities he prioritizes can’t just be developed in any academic sense, whether that is traditional public school, home schooling, or parents as role models. Leadership, drive, inquisitiveness, and maturity are skills learned by action, and the education system provides an environment for those skills to develop, even if it does not actively show that through repetitious and boring academic work. In this way, the current education system may need to be re-evaluated and changed, but its positive aspects and similar ideals should be considered before the system is completely demolished.

Doing School

Gatto’s article addresses his belief that schools are in essence laboratories, turning young, fresh minded individuals into conformists. In todays educational system, students are being controlled by curriculums that are of no interest, and in certain circumstances, of no use to them. Even still, their lack of enthusiasm and inherent boredom is deemed as their own fault. Not the fault of the teachers, the administrators, or the publishers, but the fault of the young individuals attempting to learn something about the world. Gatto delves deeper into his claim that the school system “divides children by subject, by age grading, by constant rankings on tests, and by many other more subtle means…” (36). My junior year, I had the opportunity to tutor students and be a teacher’s assistant in underfunded and underprivileged schools in different parts of Seattle. My two years there were some of the most eye opening, yet heartbreaking moments of my high school experience. Boredom was rampant, and it was apparent that many of the students wanted to be anywhere but locked in a classroom for six hours. As I began reaching out to students and learning about their lives, I came to understand that many were serious about bettering their education, but they came from troubled pasts- criminal records, bad grades, failed classes ect… As Gatto mentions, they were held back due the “evidence mathematically and anecdotally on cumulative records” (36). Therefore, no matter how badly these students wanted to turn around their situation, opportunities were closed to them because of their failed classes or previous bad grades. In addition, the students were taught to conform, not to try to achieve something outside their comfort zone. As Gatto discusses in “the differentiating function”, they were discouraged from achieving, it was all about “doing just enough”. In today’s society, it is shocking to see the lack of critical analysis done in schools, as we are now, more than ever, susceptible to believing external forces. Propaganda and marketing companies are omnipresent, and by not teaching our kids to truly think for themselves, they are like “a herd of mindless consumers…. left like sitting ducks for…. marketing” (37). Like many aspects of society, education is a business. Publishers compete for book releases, and educational boards are always convincing schools to adopt their curriculums. This, combined with corruption/subjectivity within the educational system excludes and disempowers a large group of people. Is it possible to create an educational system that encompasses everyone, and all their diversity, or will a certain group always be disadvantaged and excluded?

Response to “Against School” by John Taylor Gatto

When considering my scholastic career, I think I can count myself quite lucky in that I have always found a few teachers that were incredibly invested in my learning, in my academic development, and in my growth as a young kid. This personal experience has only made me more aware of the widespread tragedy of uninspired teaching and a greater system that suppresses creativity and personal thinking. However, I am not convinced that the vague solution Gatto proposes, to “Let them [educated men and women] manage themselves” is as complete as he hopes. Central to his argument is the theory that the current education system is a conforming and silencing force, exercised on one group by another. I just do not believe that a lack of a system altogether, with all the freedom and independence it promises, will effectively steer society away from this issue. Some structure is necessary; some stresses, pressures, and difficulties can be forming when exercised in the correct way. The crucial factor in this case, however, is a two-sided commitment (from teachers and students) to the challenges and responsibilities of education. Put simply, this ‘correct way’ needs to be one based in the promotion of that which makes every student unique, but equally capable of bringing out these valuable qualities.